Components
AMD won’t follow in Intel’s footsteps on core division, agrees with Intel on 64-bit architectures, and apparently won’t increase the number of cores in Ryzen 8000
AMD has already introduced its first processors (Epyc Bergamo), which are configured with heterogeneous cores. However, the cores of Zen 4 and Zen 4C differ only in the amount of cache memory, but not in architecture. And the company said that in the new generation of its CPUs it will also not follow in the footsteps of Intel, dividing the cores into two completely different classes.
AMD corporate vice president and general manager of customer experience at AMD, David McAfee, said the company does not see Intel’s approach with completely different cores as optimal. For example, two different types of kernels lead to increased requirements for OS and software optimization.
I know that Mark Papermaster has talked a lot about the different types of cores that will appear in our portfolio. I think what I’d like to say is that since we’ve looked at the various basic types, there are probably two things that are overarching factors that we think about in terms of how they fit into a portfolio. One of them is the perception that P-Core and E-Cores that competitors are using is not at all the approach that we plan to take. Because I think the reality is that when you get to the point where you have core types with different capabilities, it becomes very difficult to ensure that the right workloads are consistently scheduled on the right cores.
You know what I think of when we think of different positioning of the core, it’s more of a question of “what type of environment does this particular core come in for?” This is a power-constrained environment, such as a laptop, or a non-power-constrained environment, such as a desktop computer. I think that these factors will primarily determine how we will use different types of cores in our roadmap in the future.
That is, AMD believes that it is more correct to create different cores for different tasks, and not mix them in all products. But so far, AMD does not have different cores, and Zen 4 and Zen 4C will still meet together in the upcoming updated mobile Ryzen 7000.
McAfee also commented on Intel’s recent initiative regarding the full transition to 64-bit architectures. He stated that AMD finds the competitor’s proposal quite intriguing and generally feels the same way, but completely abandoning compatibility with older solutions will be a difficult task.
McAfee was also asked about the more affordable Ryzen 7000 desktop processors. Apparently, these will still come out, as McAfee said that AMD is going to constantly expand the line. Recall that the Ryzen 5 7500F should soon enter the market, which will be the cheapest in the line.
In addition, the issue of constantly increasing the number of cores was also raised.
Where we have been careful with our AM5 platform is in an attempt to balance the number of cores and memory bandwidth. There comes a point where the number of cores exceeds the memory bandwidth so significantly that while a processor with more cores with two memory channels might be an interesting specification on paper, it doesn’t benefit the end user. As memory speeds increase as we have higher bandwidth memory technologies, we are also considering increasing the number of cores. I think there will come a time when we add more cores and more memory to our platforms and they should go hand in hand. I don’t think we want to build a Ryzen roadmap where the number of cores is just a marketing gimmick.
That is, we can assume that the upcoming generation of Ryzen 8000 will include a maximum of 16 cores, like the current one.
Components
12 processor cores and iGPU of the Radeon RX 6500 XT level with a TDP of 25-35 W. This will be the mobile Ryzen 8000
Specifications of AMD Strix Point processors, which will replace the current Phoenix, have appeared on the Internet. It is expected that such APUs will be called Ryzen 804x.
According to insider All The Watts, such processors will be produced at TSMC facilities using the N4P process technology. The crystal area will be 225 mm2.
The configuration will include four Zen 5 cores and eight Zen 5c cores, meaning Ryzen mobile processors not related to the high-performance HX line will have more than eight cores for the first time.
The APU will also include an iGPU based on RDNA 3+ architecture with 8 WGP units. In more common form, this means 1024 stream processors. Let’s remember that the Radeon 780M has 768 stream processors with RDNA 3 architecture. That is, the new iGPU, which will probably be called Radeon 880M, will be more productive thanks to the updated architecture and thanks to a significantly larger number of computing units. By the way, the Radeon RX 6500 XT also has 1024 stream processors. The source also notes support for DDR5-5600 and LPDDR5X-8533 memory and TDP 25-35+ W.
Insider All The Watts previously accurately described the Ryzen 7000 CPU before their presentation.
Components
Intel’s new Meteor Lake processors won’t be all that new. The company admitted that there are few architectural differences from Raptor Lake
At the end of this year, Intel will introduce Meteor Lake processors, which will offer a new process technology, new architectures for large and small cores, and a new iGPU. However, as it turned out, regarding architectures everything is not so clear.
Intel itself has reported that the large and small cores of Meteor Lake processors are very similar in architecture to the cores at the heart of the current generation of Raptor Lake.
Yes, the new cores will be called differently in both cases (Redwood Cove and Crestmont), but there are apparently not too many technical differences. At the same time, we recall that the Raptor Cove cores in the current Intel CPUs are an improved version of the Golden Cove cores in Alder Lake.
Intel notes that it is not the architecture update that plays an important role, but the new Intel 4 process technology, which will allow the new CPUs to be faster and more energy efficient.
Compared to the previous generation of Raptor Lake, the microarchitecture of the P and E cores in Meteor Lake has some improvements. However, we have transitioned Meteor Lake to Intel Process 4. In general, when we introduce new processes, we strive to reduce risk from an architectural perspective. Once we achieve a stable flow of processes, we tend to take a bigger leap by improving the architecture. So, since this is a new big node upgrade for us and we can also get the power efficiency benefits of Intel 4, we made very few changes to the core architecture
That is, the tick-tock approach that was previously familiar to Intel takes place.
At the same time, it cannot be said that future Arrow Lake in this case will carry truly new cores, since this generation will also change the technical process (to Intel 20A).
Valve has published another statistics for the Steam service. This time based on the results of the end of September.
And the changes this time are quite noticeable. GeForce RTX 3060 has finally become the clear leader in the rating. Now this card is available to 6.27% of gamers on Steam, and in just a month its share has grown by 1.4 percentage points, which is a lot.
Let us remind you that formally the leader has been the GTX 1650 lately, but, as we have said more than once, in fact it was the RTX 3060 about six months ago, because before the RTX 30 line, Steam statistics combined mobile and desktop adapters of the same name into one position. That is, the share of the GTX 1650 is the total share of the mobile and desktop GTX 1650. While in the case of the RTX 3060 there is a desktop card, which occupies the same 6.27%, as well as the mobile RTX 3060 Laptop, which has another 3.83% at this time moment.
If we return to the rating, the GTX 1650 is in second place with a share of 4.78%, and the RTX 2060 closes the top three with a share of 4.69%, which has surpassed the GTX 1060.
Chinese telescope FAST discovered 76 new faint pulsars
These pulsars are special in the sense that they periodically emit a pulse as they spin, which is why they...
Toyota Hilux 2024 presented
The 2024 model year Toyota Hilux pickup truck was released on the home market in Japan. The car retained its...
Xiaomi will add an internal combustion engine to its cars to increase the range
Xiaomi, according to Chinese media, is working on extended range EV (EREV) systems for electrified models. The manufacturer is already...
Supernovae left imprints on Earth 3 and 7 million years ago
Using the radioactive iron isotope 60-Fe, a team of researchers from the University of Illinois was able to determine the...
-
News6 days agoThe Firefox browser now has a built-in page translator that works even without the Internet
-
Electric Cars5 days ago“We have a huge problem,” Volkswagen and Audi plants around the world shut down
-
News7 days ago110 inches, 8K, 240 Hz and more than 40 thousand backlight zones. Hisense TV UX unveiled – one of the most advanced TVs in the world
-
Laptops7 days agoMicrosoft’s CASO feature eliminates the need for iGPU and dGPU laptops to have a multiplexer to switch between graphics cores